There is no way, but [laughs] if you allow me to speak [laughs, laughter] something about Dharma Body, we call it “truth itself.” Truth. Truth is something which you cannot see. You can see the apple, but the theory of gravitation you cannot see it. But there is some theory, some truth. So, nothing happens just by accident. When something happens, there should be some reason, caused by Dharma. So, in this sense, it may be close to Dharma Nature. But we can understand in some way; we can figure out some rules. So those rules, or truth, is sometimes in Buddhism called Dharma itself. So, that is why we call it Dharma Body. It is the source of all truth.
Apple picking with Suzuki - Tassajara, Summer 1968
Photo by Brigid Meier
—cuke.com/ig for links to the source of the photo. Excerpt from Shunryu Suzuki lecture 68-10-00-B as found on shunryusuzuki.com, edited by PF. Go to instagram.com/cuke_archives for the Instagram version.