Of course, as long as we live or as long as we
have this body, it is not possible to get out of suffering. So the point is how
to change our suffering into joy of life -- true joy of life. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Excerpt from Shunryu Suzuki lecture 67-04-22-B found on shunryusuzuki.com. Edited by DC - Many Shunryu Suzuki lecture excerpts on cuke.com - from there links to much more. Going slowly through Suzuki transcripts featuring whatever is next that seems okay.