We practice zazen as when we take water when we are thirsty. That is true practice. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Excerpt from Shunryu Suzuki lecture 67-06-01 as found on shunryusuzuki.com. Edited by DC - Many Shunryu Suzuki lecture excerpts on cuke.com - from there links to much more. Going slowly through Suzuki transcripts featuring whatever is next that seems okay, not just the super cool ones,