When you have something, you will have some joy of possession. To do that is, you know, to break the precept of not stealing (laughs), or not being greedy about giving either spiritual or material help to others.. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Excerpt from Shunryu Suzuki lecture 67-06-11 as found on shunryusuzuki.com. Edited by DC - Many Shunryu Suzuki lecture excerpts on cuke.com - from there links to much more. Going slowly through Suzuki transcripts featuring whatever is next that seems okay, not just the super cool ones,.