Usually rejecting flesh for spiritual attainment or rejecting bad nature to resume good pure nature is the purpose of religious effort, but ours is quite different. We find both good and bad in oneness. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Excerpt from Shunryu Suzuki lecture 67-06-22-B as found on shunryusuzuki.com. Edited by DC - Many Shunryu Suzuki lecture excerpts on cuke.com - from there links to much more. Going slowly through Suzuki transcripts featuring whatever is next that seems okay, not just the super cool ones,