For Mahayana Buddhists, precepts observation
is not to attain the way or means to attain something. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Excerpt from Shunryu Suzuki lecture 67-09-12 as found on shunryusuzuki.com. Edited by DC - Many Shunryu Suzuki lecture excerpts on cuke.com - from there links to much more. Going slowly through Suzuki transcripts featuring whatever is next that seems okay.