To have direct experience of it is the only way
to know what is zazen. ---------------------------------------------------- Excerpt from Shunryu Suzuki lecture 67-12-01=B as found on shunryusuzuki.com. Edited by DC - Many Shunryu Suzuki lecture excerpts on cuke.com - from there links to much more. Going slowly through Suzuki transcripts featuring whatever is next that seems okay.