Student D: This is--
I'm not sure how to put the question, but last night you said that when we find
the true power of zazen we wouldn't have trouble affecting what we want to affect, or it
will just come naturally. And then at other times you've said that zazen doesn't help us or
doesn't change us a bit.
SR: [Laughing.] Yeah. Yeah. Doesn't help. [Laughter.] Zazen doesn't help, you know. But your true nature will help. If you, you know, practice zazen because zazen will help you, it will not help you [laughs] because that is not true zazen. -------------------------------------------------- Excerpt from Shunryu Suzuki lecture - 68-01-12 as found on shunryusuzuki.com. Edited by DC
SR: [Laughing.] Yeah. Yeah. Doesn't help. [Laughter.] Zazen doesn't help, you know. But your true nature will help. If you, you know, practice zazen because zazen will help you, it will not help you [laughs] because that is not true zazen. -------------------------------------------------- Excerpt from Shunryu Suzuki lecture - 68-01-12 as found on shunryusuzuki.com. Edited by DC