When you have no mind
and body, you have no problem [laughs, laughter]. Because you say, “This is
mind and this is body and body should not be the burden of the
spirit,” or something like that. “Our mind should work hard
to control our body” something like this. In this case, mind is not mind. Mind
is delusion, and body is also delusion. And delusion and delusion is fighting. -------------------------------- Excerpt from Shunryu Suzuki lecture - 68-07-24 as found on shunryusuzuki.com. Edited by DC