After practicing one or two months, if you don't think you have made some
progress, you will give up in seeking for something good. But true religion cannot be obtained in that way. This kind of a
way is the way to attain something in more materialistic sense. But true spiritual way cannot be like this. The way to work on spiritual things
is quite different from the way to work on something which is more
materialistic. Even though you talk about spiritual things, that is not
actually spiritual. That is a kind of substitute for the [laughs] spiritual
things. -------------------------------- Excerpt from Shunryu Suzuki lecture - 68-07-24 as found on shunryusuzuki.com. Edited by DC