Renunciation could be attained when A is just A and B is just B. Because A tried
to be a C or a D [laughs], there is, you know, a problem. Because A is
just A and A is bound to be disappear, that is renunciation. -------------------------------- Excerpt from Shunryu Suzuki lecture - 68-07-24 as found on shunryusuzuki.com. Edited by DC