Got an email asking who received Jukai, lay ordination, at Sokoji in 1962. I thought I had that info but I don't even try to remember where it is unless I give up using other methods. So I did the first thing I do when I'm looking for something. I went to the home page of cukecom and wrote "jukai" in the site search box up top. That did n't work so I wroet "first ordination" and that worked. From the General Wind Bell excerpt page and found this with all fifteen names listed. - DC