In zazen you should just, hear the big noise or small noise, and you should not be bothered by it. It looks like it's impossible, for you, especially for a beginner, because the moment you hear, you know, some reaction follows. But if you practice zazen-- if you try-- if you continuously try not to do so, just accept “things as it is,” you can do it eventually --------------------------- Excerpt from Shunryu Suzuki lecture - 69-03-09 - as found on shunryusuzuki.com. Edited by DC - Going through Suzuki lectures and posting anything that can stand on its own. Not looking for zingers or "the best of." I find that following these excerpts daily provides another way to experience Suzuki's teaching.