[Referring to Pure Land Buddhism and Zen] So it is not matter of what you say or how you, even, behave. When you reach this point, you will find out the real practice of repeating Amida Buddha's name or practicing zazen. There is no other way than to repeat Amida-- just repeat Amida Buddha's name without any reason. There is no other way to sit, you know, without any gaining idea. --------------------------- Excerpt from Shunryu Suzuki lecture - 69-03-16 - as found on shunryusuzuki.com. Edited by DC - Going through Suzuki lectures and posting anything that can stand on its own. Not looking for zingers or "the best of." I find that following these excerpts daily provides another way to experience Suzuki's teaching.