My talk is just to give you some help in your practice. So it is just help, you know. So, as I always say, there is no need for you to remember what I said as something definite, --------------------------- Excerpt from Shunryu Suzuki lecture - 69-03-30 - as found on shunryusuzuki.com. Edited by DC - Going through Suzuki lectures and posting anything that can stand on its own. Not looking for zingers or "the best of." I find that following these excerpts daily provides another way to experience Suzuki's teaching.