That is, I think, a good example. I'm not, you know, trying to convince you to give up smoking, or something like that. But we must have that kind of way-seeking mind. Then, you know, your practice will be pretty good. --------------------------- Excerpt from Shunryu Suzuki lecture - 69-04-19 - as found on shunryusuzuki.com. Edited by DC - Going through Suzuki lectures and posting anything that can stand on its own. Not looking for zingers or "the best of." I find that following these excerpts daily provides another way to experience Suzuki's teaching. Got to https://www.instagram.com/cuke_archives/ for more daily Shunryu Suzuki lecture excerpts - with a photo.