So to talk about enlightenment is rather, you know [laughs], foolish-- rather foolish. But sometime we have to talk about it in this way until we lose our eyebrows [laughs]. You know, to talk about it is to lose our eyebrows-- to lose ourselves. Instead of being ourselves. --------------------------- Excerpt from Shunryu Suzuki lecture - 69-04-20 - as found on shunryusuzuki.com. Edited by DC - Going through Suzuki lectures and posting anything that can stand on its own. Not looking for zingers or "the best of." I find that following these excerpts daily provides another way to experience Suzuki's teaching. Got to https://www.instagram.com/cuke_archives/ for more daily Shunryu Suzuki lecture excerpts - with a photo.