You can't stop at the top of the pole and you can't jump off. That is the problem, you know. That is why you should practice and you should forget all about the top of the pole. If so, you know, where should we throw our misunderstanding is right here [taps three times on table with stick], you know. Not this way or that way or past or future. Right here. --------------------------- Excerpt from Shunryu Suzuki lecture - 69-04-20 - as found on shunryusuzuki.com. Edited by DC - Going through Suzuki lectures and posting anything that can stand on its own. Not looking for zingers or "the best of." I find that following these excerpts daily provides another way to experience Suzuki's teaching. Got to https://www.instagram.com/cuke_archives/ for more daily Shunryu Suzuki lecture excerpts - with a photo.