To talk about merit of zen for beginners is like to count other’s treasure. So we do not talk about the merit of Zen. The only way is to devote ourselves to simple practice with hard effort. --------------------------- Excerpt from Shunryu Suzuki lecture - 67-12-04-A - as found on shunryusuzuki.com. Edited by DC - Going through Suzuki lectures and posting anything that can stand on its own. Not looking for zingers or "the best of." I find that following these excerpts daily provides another way to experience Suzuki's teaching. Go to https://www.instagram.com/cuke_archives/ for more daily Shunryu Suzuki lecture excerpts - with a photo.