Calmness is not something which exists outside of yourself. And it is not even a state of mind. It is something more than a state of mind. State of mind is just temporal, but true calmness of your mind is unperturbable, and it exists forever. This is the difference. --------------------------- Excerpt from Shunryu Suzuki lecture - 66-03-26-C - as found on shunryusuzuki.com, from one of the newly discovered (2021) lecture tapes. Edited by DC - Going through Suzuki lectures and posting anything that can stand on its own. Not looking for zingers or "the best of." I find that following these excerpts daily provides another way to experience Suzuki's teaching. Go to https://www.instagram.com/cuke_archives/ for more daily Shunryu Suzuki lecture excerpts - with a photo