This is a talk I gave with the All Beings Zen Sangha in Washington DC on October 19, 2024. Inryu Ponce-Barger is the teacher of this group currently focusing on the Sandokai, an ancient Chinese Zen poem that is chanted at the SF Zen Center. I talk about being at Tassajara when Shunryu Suzuki lectured on it. Also, see this page on cuke.com for the Sandokai - DC. Listen to the podcast here.