You should be like a child who draws things whether it is good or bad. Sometime doing things without much reason. If that is difficult, you are not actually ready to practice zazen. --------------------------- Excerpt from Shunryu Suzuki lecture - 69-03-15 - as found on shunryusuzuki.com. Edited by DC - Going through Suzuki lectures and posting anything that can stand on its own. Not looking for zingers or "the best of." I find that following these excerpts daily provides another way to experience Suzuki's teaching.