Student FF: Roshi, when
you eat an apple, form is emptiness. Give an example of “Emptiness is form.”
SR: When you say “emptiness,” that is not what emptiness means. Everything is changing. Emptiness is form. Form is emptiness.
Student FF: In its own home?
SR: Mm-hmm. You know, bamboo is bamboo, but it does not exist as a bamboo shoot always. It is growing. “Emptiness,” we say, but some concrete idea of bamboo shoot is empty. -------------------------------- Excerpt from Shunryu Suzuki lecture - 68-04-23-B as found on shunryusuzuki.com. Edited by DC
SR: When you say “emptiness,” that is not what emptiness means. Everything is changing. Emptiness is form. Form is emptiness.
Student FF: In its own home?
SR: Mm-hmm. You know, bamboo is bamboo, but it does not exist as a bamboo shoot always. It is growing. “Emptiness,” we say, but some concrete idea of bamboo shoot is empty. -------------------------------- Excerpt from Shunryu Suzuki lecture - 68-04-23-B as found on shunryusuzuki.com. Edited by DC