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Wednesday, February 12, 2020


Student: What does “form is form” mean?

SR: Form is form-- form is form means, you know, form is emptiness, emptiness is form, and form is form, and emptiness is emptiness. There are four meanings in it. Before you say, in its true sense, “form is form,” you should get through “form is emptiness” and “emptiness form.” Or else “form is form” doesn't mean anything. 
  -------------------------------- Excerpt from Shunryu Suzuki lecture - 68-07-24 as found on Edited by DC