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Thursday, July 6, 2023


Docho Roshi, if you and me and everyone here and everything around us is emptiness, can we see form in its change?

SR: Emptiness? Because we are changing, we say “emptiness.” Empty because nothing stays in its own home—because everything is changing. But usually, when I say “you” or “I,” we have some idea already which does not change. That kind of idea is empty. But if we understand everything in the state of change, that is true understanding.

—Excerpt from Shunryu Suzuki lecture - 68-04-23-B - as found on edited by PF. Go to or for links to the full Shunryu Suzuki lecture and the source of the photo.

Certificate of Emptiness