Actually, Zen is not something to talk about, and also it is something to talk about [laughs.] If you understand Zen in that way, your understanding will be perfect. If someone asks you, “What is Zen?” you may say, “Whatever you say, that is Zen.” And you may say, at the same time, “Whatever you say, it is not Zen.” [Laughs] both are true for us.
Suzuki talking with boys on the way to Tassajara
—cuke.com/ig for links to the source of the image. Excerpt from Shunryu Suzuki lecture 69-04-19 as found on shunryusuzuki.com, edited by PF. Go to instagram.com/cuke_archives for the Instagram version.
